Duminica seara s-a incheiat votul la pollingul cu intrebarea: "Credeti ca piesa "Pe O Margine De Lume" trebuie descalificata?". Rezultatul se bazeaza pe voturile a 546 de vizitatori de pe acest blog, dintre care 509 (93%) au raspuns "Da", 36 (6%) au raspuns "Nu", iar un singur vizitator a raspuns "Nu stiu".
Acest sondaj nu are, evident, pretentia de sondaj de opinie facut dupa regulile IMAS, Gallup sau IRSOP ci, asa cum sunt toate sondajele facute pe diferite site-uri sau televiziuni, el are gradul sau de subiectivitate. Dar, pe de alta parte, este destul de simptomatic, pentru ca exprima modul in care gandesc vizitatorii acestui site, despre care am invatat in ultimele saptamani ca sunt oameni de calitate.
marți, 11 martie 2008
93% dintre vizitatori considera ca "Pe o Margine De Lume" trebuie descalificata
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Pai cei ce vor dreptate au stiut sa voteze da...cei ce inca cred ca a face dreptate este o prostie au votat nu...
Asteptam viitorul Poll...sa vedem cum va suna...,,Credeti ca melodia ,,Pe-o margine de lume" va trece de prima finala?" acum parka vad 550-NU 2-DA :))
Este graitor, nu era nevoie deniciun sondaj, doar s-a vazut si la compararea celor doua petitii, pro- si contra-.
Ca ma intriga, este faptul ca, desi este coplesitor mai mare numarul celor contra-, la finala Eurovision, voturile spectatorilor au fost in favoarea copiutei.
Ghici ciuperca ce-i? Sau de ce?
Cu stima,
CPR
florine abandoneaza subiectul ptr. ca in romanica oamenilor li se falfaie de adevar. foarte bine sa mearg nico si mirita si sa+i faca praf. pe mine altceva ma intereseaza cine a castigat si cat din trimiterea acestei piese la eurovision. pana la urma totul se rezuma la lovele. de ce nu i+au dat o sansa baiatului ala megastar din rep. moldova. sau nico se retrage din muzica si era nevoie de inca un trofeu in vitrina...e o intrebare...geo r
Ce viitor au la public interpretii si compozitorul dupa acest mega-scandal? Dar concursul Eurovision 2009?
Vor exista reactii, sau, ca "pe o margine de lume", lucrurile se iau "a la legere"?
pt anonimul anterior
Crezi ca o sa iasa cineva la rampa sa strige sus si tare cat au castigat fiecare din acest minunat aranjament?
Daca vrei poti viziona sau reviziona cum a decurs jurizarea cauta jurizare eurovision I si II pe youtube si o sa "vezi" aranjamentele
Monica
de pe blogul tau am aflat unde se afla pe o margine de lume. exact intre viata lui isus si dinu patriciu in the news. e ca la otv. la asa piesa asa pozitionare. apropo otv cand descopera subiectul asta. frate diaconescu ajuta+ne. sa vedem titlu chirida a cantat pe o margine inaintea lui mitrita
florine dar aici lumea nu poate glumi de loc. nu stii tu dar cei de la biondo au plagiat piesa unor eschimosi din kargistan, satul yuyu pe stanga cum mergi spre dreapta. sa vezi acolo furt de linie melodica. florine nu noi noi suntem celebri in europa ca hoti si banditi. sunt suedezi, italienii, francezii, toti, absolut toti. noi furam doar la note asa, ca suntem telectuali si ne uitam la teveu. si avem conservatoare peste clasele primare. mai sa fie...mai oameni buni piesa astaa lui nicodaca era asa grozava era acum fredonata de toti pustii de liceu. si o difuzau in prostie posturile de radio. aia e o piesa tare, care are sanse la eurovision. o sa voteze sarbii cu noi ca nu am acceptat magaria din kosovo. si poate si ceva romani din strainatate care au ramas cu muzica din anii 80 in cap. dar in rest, sunt alti care au muzica..geo
UITE AVEM FANI OTV!..ELODIA ELODIA..CANTA-NE ELODIA!
mai florine noi vedem ca tu ai fata de suedez, dar da-o naibi de treaba. ce ne-au adus noua suedezi sa+i votam. sau tu ai facut toata aceasta campanie probiondo ca sa-l primeasca bine pe base la ei. florine tu lucrezi mai tare ca realitatea cu taxa auto. dai apa la moara unor suedezi care au gresit festivalul ca sa-i ridici mingi la fileu lui base in suedia. ma da chiar ma faci sa ma inscriu la prm. florine tu vrei sa ne dea astia in farmacii distonocalm suedez. o sa+mi spui ca de pe vremea dacilor veneau hunii si vikingii la noi sa participe la eurokaftelion. ca e o traditie, bla, bla...mai noi stim ca tu ai facut+o pentru traienica. trai nenica sa te duci in suedia si acolo toti sa+ti planga in batista ca au citit pe blogul lui budescu ca piesa lor merita sa mearga mai departe. parca altfel te simpatizeaza investitorul suedez. si vine cu investitia in energie. sitotul a pornit de la o piesa mult comentata pe blog. da, domnul presedinte nu mai vrea sa traim pe o margine de lume. cu popoul pe o margine de lume si sa privim panarama din jur. bine lucrat. am aprobat.
Dupa cum se observa, toate comentariile, inclusiv cele in care sunt luat in balon si purtat prin cerurile ironiei, chiar fara nicio logica, daca nu sunt vulgare sau injurioase, apar pe blog.
As prefera argumente logice in loc de aberatii cu Traienica si altele.
Florin Budescu
aceelasi anonim.
florine imi schimb parerea despre tine. da parca a fost plagiat la mirita. esti un tip ok, ai simtul umorului. mai restul de 35, care ascultati la casti nico si mirita, hai treceti pe rare bird, allusa fatax, arcangello corelli. nu se mai poate asa. pana cand o sa fiu eu trompeta refularilor voastre artistice. ce daca ati dat fiecare 20 euro pe sms si nu vi s+au decontat.
cum?budescu e suedez?aaa..
am postat si eu mesaj mai devreme la articolul anterior.Imi amintesc ca nu continea injuraturi.O intrebare: de ce nu l-ati lasat?
Monica
Plagiarism accusations towards "Disappear"
Posted 11 March, 2008 - 17:36 by Charlotte Jensen
Steffi List and No Angels
German media are accusing songwriter Remee of having “stolen” his song from a German talent show. Remee turns it the other way around by stating that his song was written first.
It came as quite a surprise for the Danish songwriter, Remee, that he won the German national final as, previously reported here on EuroVisionary, he had no knowledge of the song even being sent in to the selection. He was quite happy though with Disappear being his first Eurovision entry, but now he is beginning to feel what the Eurovision Song Contest is also about: plagiarism accusations.
A German radio station is accusing Remee of having copied the song Break the silence, which Steffi List came third with in a German TV show on 10th of January. Remee does not comment on whether or not the two song songs are too similar, but turns it the other way around. “We wrote our song a long time before their song was published. I don’t understand why it is not the other way around and them who has copied our song”, Remee says.
Whoever wrote the song first EuroVisionary is giving our readers the chance to judge if the two songs are indeed similar or if this is just another one in the endless row of accusations that comes up every year, but rarely has any justification.
NDR concludes entry is not plagiarised
Posted 12 March, 2008 - 13:50 by Paul Hosey
NDR (c) NDR
Accusations of plagiarism were waged against the German 2008 entry by a German radio station. NDR has now issued a press release in which they totally deny that any evidence exists that proves this argument.
The story has been picked up by many news outlets in Germany and so NDR has felt it necessary to totally refute any accusations of plagiarism. There are three main rebuttals in their press release. The first is that the music for the song 'Disappear' was first written in January 2006 and so would out date the song 'Break the silence' by Steffi List which was publicly aired on the 10th of January this year.
The second point on which NDR discredits the allegation is that there is no actual plaintiff that feels they have been the victimised by the plagiarism of their intellectual property. The two artists involved are both on the Universal label so NDR feels that there is no problem in that regard.
The final point that NDR brings to light is the fact that independent consultants have confirmed that the similarities in the song do not constitute plagiarism. Ralf Quibeldey from NDR's entertainment department said "We are persuaded that the song 'Disappear' of the group 'No Angels' in all points complies with the guidelines of the EBU for the Eurovision Song Contest and is not plagiarism. We are glad that No Angels, internationally known stars, line up for Germany in Belgrade, and keep our fingers crossed for them."
Paolo Meneguzzi, 31 year old singer, guitarist and songwriter from Tessin will represent Switzerland at Eurovision Song Contest 2008. Singer has been selected by jury, made of representatives of Swiss channels SF, TSR, TSI, VIVA Switzerland and radio DRS. He will perform song "Era stupendo", which is described as a romantic ballad with dance elements in the style of 70s. Song will be presented for the first time at Swiss TV on 12th of January, during the broadcast of Swiss national music awards.
Different tabloid papers in Sweden and Switzerland, supported by some websites have launched campaign to prove that song "Era Stupendo", set to be representing Switzerland in Eurovision 2008 performed by Paolo Meneguzzi, is in fact plagiarism of the song "It can only get better" performed by 15 years old Amy Diamond from Sweden.
Father and manager of Swedish singer Lee Deasismont has stated "The songs are very much alike. All the best in the Swiss song has been taken from "It can only get better". Composer of the Swedish song Tommy Tysper added: "We are going to listen to the songs carefully and decide which measures we can take".
Swiss papers approached Paolo, who noticed "I do not know this Swedish singer, so I had to look on the video from Youtube. Well, even if there may be some similarities between the songs - I didn't steal it from her! Actually I also noticed that parts of Amy's song are very similar to song of Avril Lavigne "When You're Gone!"
Representative of Swiss broadcaster SF told: "In certain places there can be heard some vague similarities - however in general the two songs are different."
It also appeared that though Paolo himself wrote "Era Stupendo" arrangement for it was done by Swedish Erik Lidbom, who also produced Meneguzzi's album "Musica". "Erik is only responsible for production, while I myself composed all songs for the album. I tryst him", rejects Meneguzzi.
Expert Poto Wegener from Swiss socitety for copyrights of music works judged the following "Yes, the beginning of the verse, as well as parts of refrain are very simillar. However similarities do not mean plagiarism. It may be example of double creation".
You can listen to Paolo's song here and to Amy's here.
Currently, we do not believe there are enough grounds for disqualification, however if author of Swedish entry will issue official complaint the matter will be decided by EBU comission after Swiss entry will be oficially submitted to the contest.
waw astia nu fac petitii de plagiat?
bravo anonimule ai inceput sa te documentezi. vezi cum te-a pus budescu la treaba... acum iti lucreaza creierul, dupa cum spunea geo rug sau cum ii zice. la cat mai multe circumvolutiuni, frate..hai ca-i tare budescu...
verisoara de sora de mama de vara primara de-a doua de-a lui budescu si nevasta de-a primului anonim de la facerea blogului
bai anonimule no nobody..eu i-am aratat lui budescu ce se intampla prin alte tari..ca nu exista petitii,jigniri etc ..
a dar tu cum te-ai nascut la coada vacii sau la roata carutii tu tb sa te certi sa te isterizezi:D
omul a postat un text inteligent in lb. engleza, e engleza, nu, si tu te iei de sapca lui. citeste+l draga in franceza daca nu iti convine. sau in rusa. hai nico si mirita , hai romania. cartianus dixit
auleu anonimule, se vede ca te-ai nascut la coada vacii..habar n-ai nimic..mai da o tura prin parc:D
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